Ella, you’re an amazing person and I always always look up to you. You’re polite yet firm in your reasoning, your conclusions aren’t biased and it’s backed up by evidence (you even begun to source them so that people can find the webcomic easily, A+). I haven’t been to your tumblr for a long time and I was so shocked that you recieved asks that are based on only one small part of your explanation and ignoring the context that accusses you of stuff you didn’t even imply. You’re my role model.

Wow wow wow. Thank you! This is both incredibly flattering
and nerve-wracking! Thank you for reminding me of this, because it makes me
feel even more accountable for how I run this blog. 

I’ve always credited and sourced before, though haha. The inserted links would have made it easier for people to find the sources :p I’ve just
moved to putting in more formal citations!

I’m not going to lie,
my patience is running thin. It’s one thing if people had a problem with
something I legitimately argued or if I had poor, vague clarification (fair
enough, just substantiate your argument by linking my posts + using quotes),
but that hasn’t been the case yet. 

Anyways, recently, the discourse has been heavy because I had wanted to get a few subjects out of the way before I started school. I had been avoiding them for months. There are a couple more I would like to do, but right now I don’t have time and would honestly rather just focus on analyzing content like I’ve always done. 

ellawritesficssometimes:

Why
Hetalia isn’t racist + why it doesn’t promote Japanese imperialism/nationalism

Before I start, it’s important to get a few points out of the
way given that many of the misinformed critiques of Hetalia have been made by
people who haven’t read the original source material (i.e., the manga).

  • There’s a difference between historical
    situation and promoting a horrid ideology. Just because a series depicts war
    and Nazis doesn’t mean that they’re inherently glorified. Of most importance is
    that Hetalia promotes peace and reconciliation in spite of depicting war.
  • The wars that are depicted are general and the atrocities
    are deliberately glossed over. This is necessary because Hetalia is comedic in
    nature.
  •  Hetalia is based on stereotypes, good or bad.
    While some of the jokes are admittedly offensive, no nation is singled out nor
    are any specific nations made to be superior in comparison to others. Every
    character is made fun of for their stereotypes. Its humour isn’t meant for everyone.
  • Hetalia is satire. It mocks war and nationalist
    sentiments rather than promoting it.
  • The dub is not canon. That includes many of the
    insensitive jokes that Funimation scripted. 
  • The anime itself is unrepresentative of the
    manga. It can only cover so much material. Don’t judge a manga by its anime
    just the same as you wouldn’t judge a book by its cover.
  •  It’s also important to note that Seychelles has
    always been dark-skinned in the manga, unlike in the anime where she was drawn
    as pale-skinned. However, I do concede that even in the manga, her skin should
    be darker [x].

Since I’ve already created many posts on this subject, here
are some resources corroborating the above points
: [x] [x] [x] [x] [x].

In addition, I’ve also found a scholarly article in a
university publication that does a fantastic job of not only dismantling many
of the misconceptions about Hetalia but also many of the baseless critiques
that have been aimed toward it:

  • It’s a fair, level-headed piece that uses original source material to prove that
    Hetalia mocks and undermines sentiments of Japanese imperialism and nationalism
    while also demonstrating that it takes a definitive anti-war stance.
  • What I particularly like about it is that it
    acknowledges that some of Himaruya’s early choices were made in poor taste but
    is still able to substantiate the stance that this insensitivity isn’t
    supportive of racist sentiments.
  • It also shows artwork/content that glorifies
    Japanese imperialism and nationalism and then compares it to Hetalia.

Overall, it’s very well-written, sourced, and informed. Below
will be a list of important quotes that I took from the article. I highly
encourage for people to read the whole thing, as it breaks down a good amount of examples from both the manga and anime [x]. The article can be found through Google Scholar.

Source: 

Sands, A. T. (2013).
Belittling japanese nationalism in hetalia: axis powers. Humanities and Social Sciences Review, 2(3), 125-144.

Quotes: 

“Hetalia does not
portray violence or accurate portrayals of history; Hetalia is a collection of
gags mocking militarism and stereotypes,” (125).

“Hetalia condenses
history for comical effect but retains an anti-war sentiment by belittling
wartime axis beliefs…In Hetalia, each character’s nation is targeted for
ridicule through its stereotypes, and I argue the stereotypes are not intended
to create a sense of racial inferiority,” (126).

“A close examination of
plot, character development and imagery reveals a subtle disdain for
nationalism, which purposes racism and false history,” (126).

“Manga and anime can be
a good outlet for nationalists to use, but it can also be a tool to combat
nationalism,” (128).

“For every Hetalia fan,
there is another furious anime blogger appalled by it. As the battle over
Hetalia’s purpose rages in anime and manga circles, academia has of yet not
entered the discussion with earnest,” (129).

“Hetalia does gloss over
almost all of the war, especially the darker parts of the war, but if you watch
the whole show, it is easy to realize the show is not about WWII,” (129).

“Korea as an ‘other’ in Hetalia is not nearly as
physiologically different from his Japanese counter part… Although Korea is not
portrayed physically inferior to the Japanese, critics argue his immature personality
and actions are racist. Himaruya’s choice to make Korea an immature teenager
rather than an adult may not have been the most sensible of choices, but it was
also necessary for him to create jokes tailored to Japanese stereotypes of
Koreans, which he could then subvert…On some levels, the jokes are insensitive,
and they are not politically correct,” (130).

The author also goes
on to mention how inappropriate and weird some of the “sexually charged” jokes
were, starting from page 131.

“In Hetalia, every nation has its moments when its actions
are designed to make people laugh at it, and Japan is no exception. Rather than
idolizing Japan, Hetalia’s representation of Japan is a socially awkward,
emotionally repressed, and sometimes obsequious character to be laughed at. He
is neither the proud solider in Sensoron nor the charismatic scholar of
Kenkanryu…

If Japan’s character had been a fearless soldier immune to
cultural gaffes, I would argue Hetalia would be purporting an idealized notion
of the “self” in order to promote nationalism. Himaruya’s version of Japan,
however, could not be farther from an “idealized self,” nor does he try to
blatantly dichotomize or attack a perceived “other,” (132).

“Hetalia does have politically incorrect and at times
racially insensitive caricatures. Gag comedy is based on jesting stereotypes
and thus has to have some degree of politically incorrect imagery and character
personalities. Neither in the original web comics nor in the anime version that
followed it did Hetalia attempt to isolate Japan as the dignified “self” people
should idolize. The “others” are often portrayed at the butt of the jokes, but
each nation also has its turn to be the dominant character, even at the expense
of Japan’s pride. Critics can dislike Hetalia for being tactless at times, but
I argue their accusations of supporting malicious racism are based on curt
examinations of the show, which do an injustice to Himaruya’s true intentions,”
(133).

“Hetalia’s critics decry it for more than just its perceived
racist notions; they also denounce it for its interpretation of WWII and other
historical events, which lack acknowledgement for grievances against Japan.
Gag-comedy constrains Himaruya to a small amount of time to touch on important
historical events, such as China’s discovery of Japan, Russo-Japanese War, and
WWII amongst others. The time constraints naturally appear as historical omission
for the sake of defending the nations; however, Hetalia does not attempt to
omit history to protect Japan’s pride, but rather it condenses history for
comical effect,” (133).

“By mocking the tools and ideas of war and degrading it into
a minute-long gag, Himaruya expresses his contempt for war and the foolishness
of man to pursue it, thus creating an anti-war message rather than glorifying
the imperial state as Kobayashi did,” (135).

Page 136: a good
example of how the Axis were anything but glorified, season 1 episode 18.

“Himaruya may have glossed over the atrocities of war, but
he did not glorify Japan,” (136).

“I believe that in season 4 episode 26, the final three
fragments before the credits represent Himaruya’s sincere belief in the need
for reconciliation amongst East Asian nations and Japan…Japan informs the viewer
he wanted to wait until the last to show his final technique, and in a close up
of Japan’s emotional face he proclaims, ‘But if you’re serious, I’ll get
serious, too! My final secret technique: Expression of Regret!’…

“The simplicity of the idea that peace could be solved by a
pair of underpants is the joke’s punchline, but I believe, underneath the surface,
it represents a metaphor that the path to peace and reconciliation in East Asia
is far simpler than assumed. For Japan, the path is regret,” (136-137).

“Himaruya is trying to make a comedy out of history. Hetalia
does omit many historical facts, but it was never trying to be a serious
historical discussion. When Hetalia condenses history for comical effect, the
imagery and dialogue indicate the scene is solely a gag. Himaruya’s metaphors
and cinematography suggest he views war as senseless. Rather than supporting right
wing nationalism, Hetalia appears to be a satirical anti-war anime,” (137).


Conclusion:

With all that in mind, Hetalia may have had its faults—and
still does to a far lesser extent—but
it has never advocated for war, racism, or nationalist and imperialist drives.
If anything, interpretations of the series have caused the exact division that
Himaruya’s writings have long been opposed to.

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I forgot to mention this, but it’s nonetheless crucial to
the narrative Hetalia pushes.

The scene where Japan betrays China substantiates how
Hetalia does anything but glorify Japanese imperialism.

China warmly welcomes Japan into his home.

Meanwhile, due to political tensions, Japan has already
mentally committed to positioning himself as the enemy in spite of the
brotherly relationship they shared. To the reader, he becomes the antagonist,
someone who enters China’s home—a metaphor for his trust—and
egregiously violates it.

If the series truly promoted imperialism why is it that
Japan asks China to forgive him right before he brandishes his weapon? The mood
isn’t that of superiority and triumph; it’s of shame and regret.

Source: Hetarchive, The Story About the Early Days of China and Japan. 

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Q & A

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Are Seborga
and Genoa related to anc.Rome too? Since They have the curl.

 (The Italy brothers use a curl as proof of a
blood relation to Rome [x].)

By the logic vested in the manga, I would say
so. It’s similar to how Himaruya approached the German states. They were all
considered to be brothers.

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In your opinion,
are there any secret/low-key stoner characters?

No one is confirmed to be a stoner lol. However,
Canada has smoked pot once.

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Source: Christmas 2010 Event, page 5. 

Although he’s never been shown to smoke pot in
canon (therefore it’s not canon), Netherlands would be another contender. There’s
a panel even depicting how some “coffee shops” in his country sell it. 

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, February 24, 2015). 

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Is there
enough evidence to say that Prussia is an albino? Or Iceland or someone else in
the series for that matter

This is actually a mistake I’ve made in the
past in my own fics. Pale eyes and hair doesn’t automatically make someone an
albino, even though Prussia is sometimes depicted with characteristic red eyes—point is, it doesn’t automatically make him an albino.

Source: Christmas 2007, Hetarchive, page 5. 

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Canon evidence has actually pointed otherwise since
Prussia’s color scheme varies. He’s had blond hair and blue eyes, and his eye
color can range from hues of red, blue, and purple.

Edit: I’m aware that albinos can have blue/ purple eyes, but the fact still remains that Prussia hasn’t been confirmed as one. 

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, Nov 22nd, 2011).


slightly
personal question for mun: what do u think the most endearing trait of your
favorite character is?

 I don’t have a favourite character!

 …The first character that comes to mind is
Finland.

 He’s just a genuinely wholesome person that can
cheer up anyone [x]. 

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Where did the
Netherlands and Taiwan ship come from? Is there any interaction between them in
canon?

There is no interaction between them.

I’m not favourable of the “they must have an
interaction in order to be shipped” mentality, though. People are free to ship
what they want, and they shouldn’t have to justify it based on canon material,
ya know?

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It’s not confusing if
you take two minutes to do a simple google search, though 😉

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Yeah. I have no problems
with people headcanoning and never have. I believe in artistic liberty.
However, I don’t understand why people let themselves remain confused
and/or take everything they see as truth without fact-checking the manga/
hetarchive database. The information is all there and is very accessible. 

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Everyone learns at their
own pace. School is too standardized, so if you don’t get it, it doesn’t mean
that you won’t or aren’t as capable. People operate at different paces and
possess different aptitudes. For example, I was a whiz at English but for Math I
would have to do practice questions for several hours in a row before I finally
got the hang of it.

Asking questions is a
sign of learning and engagement. I don’t think it should ever be looked down
on. You’re not an idiot. If anything, you’re smart enough to ensure the quality
of your own education.

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Again, you’ve completely
missed the mark on what my perspective is and have completely subverted it into
a polar opposite. I’m not going to sit here and re-state my points, not to mention that I’ve never talked about what makes ‘good writing’ in Hetalia. You’re acting as if that’s something I’ve said which I don’t appreciate.

Here are posts to corroborate
how wrong your summary is [x] [x]. If you have any questions/
need further clarifications then, feel free to send in another ask.

On that last part: I ask that you again please not accuse me of
something that I haven’t said. I can’t remember which Q & A it was, but I have
gone on the record to say that there are two reasons why I believe Himaruya
hasn’t adequately represented all nations:

1)    If you read through Bamboo Thicket, on several
occasions you’ll find that he travels to a country before he personifies it.

2)    I’ve also speculated that because there is so
much controversy surrounding the series, Himaruya may not want to personify
countries with violent colonial pasts that include an additional element of racialization.
It would be tricky deciding on how to go about the character’s history and what to depict.

It’s untrue that there
is no representation in Hetalia. A good chunk of East Asia is personified, some
African nations are, and there’s also Ecuador. My mother’s from Guyana (South
America). Sure, I would love a
personification for it
, but I also recognize that introducing a new
character for every country is unsustainable.

**You also have to keep in
mind that the original series was shaped around WW2, which, in turn,  shaped which nations were initially
personified. However, I do agree that we could use more representation in
certain areas of the globe; I’ve never stated anything otherwise.

Oh, geez… somebody once wrote a headcanon based on the story of Romulus and Remus, saying that Rome had a brother he killed (to mirror the legend). But, nobody took it seriously, some people just thought it would have been an interesting take of Roman mythology… not a believable headcanon, though. There must be somebody who took it as serious, however, because I’ve seen some people who had reblogged the headcanon receiving anon asks about this. I don’t know if your anon is the same one lol

Oh, huh. I mean, I think it would be cool to have references to the folklore (I and others have given Rome the name Romulus in fics), but the personifications don’t found the nations they represent. They come into existence afterwards. 

I’m with you on that. It’s not very believable considering how much it strays from the logic used in the manga. By that I mean that I’m confused that it was considered to be canon. People can headcanon however they want, though. 

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Misconception: He’s
dead and no longer exists.

Reality: He is
dead, but he still exists in heaven.

Ex: He once tied
up God so that he was able to visit his grandsons. 

(Source: Together with Grandpa Rome, Hetarchive.)

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Ex: He visits
Earth with Germania, only to find out that his home has since been replaced by
a bench.

(Source: Grandpa Rome’s visit home, Hetarchive). 

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Misconception: He
and Germania hate each other and are grave enemies.

Reality: It’s not
so much hatred but rather a strong one-sided dislike on Germania’s part. A lot
of canon information is contradictory, so it’s tricky to piece together.

Ex: A character
note for Germania: “Has a taciturn but rough personality and dislikes Rome
greatly.”

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, May 6th, 2008). 

Ex: Germania is
easily irritated by Rome.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, Feb 6th, 2015). 

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A condensed explanation of their relationship would be
childhood rivals who teased each other, a disgruntled Germania becoming Rome’s
bodyguard + occasional teasing, tension, Germania probably—although unconfirmed—giving
the finishing blow that ended Rome’s life on Earth, and reconciliation in
Heaven.

Ex: Childhood
teasing.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, Feb 24th, 2015). 

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Ex: Germania
acting as Rome’s bodyguard and making a snide comment about the latter.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, May 3rd, 2011). 

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Ex: The
unconfirmed status of whether Germania truly killed Rome is mentioned in this
character note “A brave man who is said to had [sic] defeated Rome, although
the truth is hard to find out.”

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, May 6th 2008). 

Ex: The two visit
Earth together. Germania consoles Rome, who became distraught after learning
that his home no longer exists.

Source: Grandpa Rome’s visit home, Hetarchive. 

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Misconception: He
doesn’t care about Romano.

Reality: While he
may have devoted more attention to Veneziano, he very deeply cares about Romano
too.

Ex: Sketches indicate that Himaruya may have intended for them to have a more
tangible family dynamic.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, May 1rst 2011). 

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Ex: Rome visits
both Italy brothers in their dreams [x]. 

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Ex: Romano bursts
out into tears of happiness when Rome visits him from heaven. The meetings don’t
occur often because Romano gets embarrassed by his crying.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, April 5th 2011)

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Misconception: He’s
not biologically related to the Italy brothers.

Reality: While
the labels attributed are awkward due to the absence of a traditional birth
process, the three of them are, in fact, biologically related.

Ex: Rome is said
to have many grandchildren, both biological and adopted.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, Oct 30th, 2014). 

Ex: On several
occasions, the Italy brothers are said to have inherited his legacy.

Source: Grandpa Rome’s visit home, Hetarchive). 

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Ex: The presence
of a curl is later used to distinguish a direct blood relation from Rome [x]. 

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Bonus facts: 

He was originally conceptualized as a much older man.

Source: Main story line chapter 4, Hetarchive.

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He also visits Germany quite often to check up on the latter’s
research on him.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, Oct 20th, 2014). 

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Himaruya intended to give him a retired playboy vibe.

Source: Bamboo Thicket (Eng trans., Hetarchive, May 6th, 2008). 

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