-You’re not being rude,
so don’t worry about that. I appreciate that you’ve gone through the lengths to
inquire about the reasons. Not many people are capable of this, unfortunately
🙂
-I’m a multi-shipper, so
it’s not like I only ship them together. (Mainly saying this for those who see this
post).
-In general: Not
everyone has to have a reason for their ship other than simply liking it. They
shouldn’t feel obligated to justify it either.
-It’s a misconception
that Russia and America don’t get along [x]. During the Cold War, their relationship
was a myriad of passive-aggressiveness [x] and yes, dick jokes [x]. Presently, the
two get along really well. Although, the passive-aggressiveness remains.
-I don’t want to
persuade anyone to ship RusAme. They can see the information and decide for
themselves. I’ll just point toward some neat parallels between them that would
form the grounds for effective fic writing.
Post coming up tonight!
Yes, because clearly
something that depicts war and division must
be promoting it. Of all the things to criticize Hetalia for given the
controversy its generated—albeit mainly from past content—this isn’t something that it has
ever stood or advocated for.
Sure! These character notes are super helpful. Here’s just
some evidence from the manga to corroborate and flesh them out [x].
• “Before he was a little
brother-like crybaby who would immediately rely on England or France but getting blown at by the harsh
wind of the Wild West, at some point he grew abnormally quickly both mentally
and physically.”
• “Because of England’s
influence has no taste, no matter what kind of colours it has he’ll just settle
with ‘cute.’ But I
think he has some more taste left than England. Lately he has been getting into
sushi.”
The comic gag is that while he genuinely cares about his
friends, claiming to be a hero, he’ll also say obnoxious things like “I’m
number one!”, “NPCs” or won’t tolerate deviating opinions.
If you think about it, this isn’t too far off from what American
foreign policy has historically been like.
The key difference is that America genuinely thinks
he’s helping, as do most Americans when they’re polled.
Young America has a
picnic by himself. France, with the intention of winning over the latter as a
territory, feeds him [x].
“I’m not lonely.”
The Centennial and the
Statute of Liberty.
Watching horror movies
together.
Deleted strip, America’s Brewster F2A Buffalo: France still considers America to be a child
and prevents him from drinking during WW2.
If anything, this could also indicate how removed England
was from the effect that his taxation had on his colonies. Great addition,
thank you for sharing! [x].
It seems like Canada is America’s adopted
introvert.
Yes and no. Early on, it
was more of a resentful push-and-tug relationship. Their relationship in the
present lines up more with what you’re saying!
Sorry, I have to make
this distinction because you still see people bitterly posting on trope
websites that the two remain primarily resentful of each other, which isn’t
true! [x].
Is North Italy really a virgin? If he’s not,
why does the fandom believe so? I mean I know he used the “I’m a
virgin” lie to get out being harmed, as for some reason they sympathize
for virgins, but the dude has a black book full of women he has dated, he still
dates and flirts with girls. Given how old he is, doesn’t it make more sense
for them to have lost it at some point in time? Maybe n teen years. Oh, that
time he ran home for sexual needs during war. So y proclaim it canon if 1 is
not sure
(Not sure why this
really matters lol but…)
It’s messy because you’re
leaping through several time periods here. They don’t occur simultaneously.
WW1–He plays the
sympathy card and states that he’s a virgin to prevent Germany from shooting
him. This also could have just been a spur of the moment thing he said to avoid being harmed.
We also know from this
character chart that Italy officially becomes an adult in the 20th
century [x].
The third comic you
referenced is from Comic Diary 2.It
takes place in WW2. Italy cites that fight or flight instincts in war create an
urge in men to reproduce, hence the greater occurrence of sexual intercourse
between men since no women are available. As you mentioned, he leaves to
presumably have sex [x].
The second strip you
mentioned is from volume 2 and seems to take place in WW2. It doesn’t actually confirm whether he’s had sexual
intercourse with these women but rather that he’s met them over the years from
his time spent in war (i.e., “battles). He could have, but it’s not made explicit.
Presently, there’s a
strip where Italy uses a sexual innuendo in front of an attractive girl at an
anime convention [x].
Overall, my guess is
that he probably was a virgin during WW1 having just become an adult but lost
it sometime during or before WW2.
Why does no nation (other than his family) look
behind Russia’s cruelty and see he’s very lonely? (While Russia has done very
questionable things in the past…)
It’s easy to say that from an outsider’s perspective. Even
though Russia wasn’t psychologically aware of the depth and extent of his
cruelty, he was still an abuser. Loneliness isn’t exactly going to make those
whom he tortured instantly want to be friends with him. They’re big enough to
empathize and feel some compassion from him, but none of that will negate the
terrible experiences they endured in his household. I don’t blame them [x].
It’ll take a long time to heal (as we saw with China and
Japan), but I do believe it’s possible that their relationship will
improve in the future.
I’m too disturbed by the fact that Germany
can’t drink beer legally because he’s underage. he’s 20. he became an adult a
few years ago. he literally killed a man in his sleep, but he can’t drink beer
yet / he’s just too mature for his age??? he’s still a bby boy???? he can still
grow a little at this age??? he’s so young???
He’s 20 physiologically but not chronologically and became
an adult decades ago. Drinking ages also vary from country to country.
I know there are a few occasions where nations
physiologically young are barred from drinking (Deleted strip:
America’s Brewster F2A Buffalo), but for
the most part, it doesn’t seem to matter [x].
If a nation ages, it’s usually a mesh between their
chronological age, and political, social, and economic developments.
Most canon? I’m not sure
what you mean by that, but this is Okinawa’s character [x].
Do you think Czechoslovakia could be considered canon? I
mean, they were married and all and the split was called a divorce, so…
While it is hinted that they miss living with each
other, (i.e., Czechia not having Slovakia to hand her a towel when she takes a
shower and Slovakia realizing that Czechia makes better toast), as well as the
fact that they both get flustered and embarrassed whenever this topic arises,
they haven’t explicitly confirmed feelings for each other. Therefore, it’s not
canon [x].
Additionally something I’ve noticed, in the post where
America grumbles that England didn’t give him any chocolate: Not only was
America eating it in a gluttonous seeming manner to show England he didn’t
care, he had a whole bucket of it. That kind of ideology ‘if i have much more
of ___ then i can be happier and better than other people’ seems excessively
America-esque.
It is very much “America-esque!” It’s part of his
characterization. He hoards things in bulk due to being poor and not having had a
lot of possessions when he was younger—notice the link with the chocolate again! [x].
If you want to analyze this psychologically, he filled the void of his loneliness with material objects that would only fulfill him temporarily. It didn’t adress his lacking interpersonal life.
Is there a reason
for why a nation’s immortality can spread to other living beings?
Not that I can recall. My guess is that because time functions differently for them, an
invisible forcefield envelops around their body. Humans or pets that get close
to the nation and the different pace of this time forcefield for prolonged
periods of time subsequently causes them to experience time differently too.
I also forgot to mention something! We do have an instance
of a nation’s immortality rubbing off on a human: Howard the Spy from volume 3 [x].
Himaruya notes that while England took precautions not to spend
too much time with Howard, it’s possible that he may have lived and stayed
youthful longer than the average human [x].
Hey, do you remember the time where himaruya
promised that the story of chibitalia and holy rome will have a happy ending?
What do you think about that?
I’ve done a longer post on this, but I’m 90% sure that the
Chibitalia storyline mimics Disney’s version of Cinderella [x].
Making the unconfirmed assumption that Holy Rome is, in
fact, Germany, I think the big reveal is going to pan out with Germany finding
the old pair of panties that Chibitalia gave to Holy Rome as a parting gift [x].
Since objects in the manga have proven to trigger repressed
memories [x], I think that’s how Germany’s officially going to find out/ not
being able to deny anymore that he’s Holy Rome.
I mean, how else would they have a happy ending if Holy Rome isn’t alive?
Jesus Christ, you guys are super sweet. Thank you 😀
I would just like to point out that I’m going to be brief here. I’ve already covered this topic and don’t typically re-answer questions. I have a post directory and it’s your responsibility to read it along with the ask guidelines before you send in an ask! [x]
Anon 1: Any material that isn’t deleted is still canon, which includes the old characterizations, unfortunately.
What I can’t stress enough is the use of discretion in recognizing that the way the characters are portrayed is far different now. Years of material have consistently proven that Himaruya’s learned from his mistakes and has grown as a creator.
It’s just as wrong to hold on to previous characterizations as ‘evidence’ as it is to completely ignore and deny their existence.
Anon 2: It’s not a DNA/ deterministic behaviour type of thing. My understanding is that it stems from custom and tradition.
We’ve seen this before with America. How he behaves in world meetings goes against conventional norms.
Notice how Russia mentions that they’re [as in those nations who are older than America] are bound by tradition, (Together with Russia, Volume 5).
From what I can recall, there is one instance where a nation goes against their bosses’ wishes.
Occurs during the Anglo-Japanese Alliance Arc…
Japan claims that his boss “went on his own accord” in speaking to Russia and apologizes to England, who at the time didn’t have good relations with Russia [x].
Anon 3: That’s one thing about Hetalia that’s a bit confusing. Its rules are flimsy and there are several exceptions. Perhaps with France the matter was the question of the legitimacy of the government.
Anyways, we do know what happened to him in canon. He went to live with England after the Nazis occupied him (Volume 5, Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité and…)
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