In previous posts [x] [x], I’ve laid out the rules that explain what
affects a nations’ health. This post, however, will elaborate in more detail to
show the different ways in which they can be affected and why that is.
For one thing, we know that the personification’s health is
predicated on their economic and political situation. That is, if they are
suffering from political issues (either domestic or international) or are
experiencing an economic recession, they will fall ill.
That said, let’s go through the symptoms they can experience.
Ex: Several nations develop fevers or colds in reaction to
the Great Depression.
Ex: Austria will develop a high fever and eventually collapse if
Germany acquires a cold [from an economic slump].
“A reliable country that likes to approach things with a sober seriousness.
He approves of and supports lots of Germany’s ideas so he may look like one of the helper countries, but in reality the level of his dependency is pretty high.
So high that when Germany catches a little cold, Austria goes straight to high fever and eventually collapses, and so he doesn’t have much of a choice than to take good care of himself.”
Ex: England develops a cold after the American Revolution.
Ex: The aftermath of the Napoleonic Wars.
Ex: Spain nearly dies during an economic recession before
Romano starts helping him recover with imports.
This symptom in particular is depicted more as a consequence
of war (which includes separate battles/attacks) or civil strife. You’ll often
see the most devastated nations coughing up blood in panels where Hima
introduces different sides of the conflict.
Ex: Prussia, Spain, and Italy during the Napoleonic Wars.
Ex: Prussia during the American Revolution.
Ex: China during WW2 after being betrayed by Japan.
Ex: The disunity in the Holy Roman empire causes Holy Rome
to fall ill and cough up blood. His political situation isn’t stable, which, in
turn, is reflected in his poor health.
Bonus case:
The nations cough up blood and get sick during conflicts,
but are nonetheless able to heal from these wounds with time as their country’s
situation stabilizes.
But, what if a personification never healed emotionally from
a conflict and keep reliving it over and over again?
Wouldn’t that explain why England coughs up blood and falls
ill every year during the fourth of July? The event is still fresh in his mind,
and regardless if it’s over and done with, his body reacts as if it’s still
happening.
Remember that time where Austria wore skirts until Maria Theresa produced a male heir? It’s a joke taken literally.
“’For a long time, Maria Theresa wasn’t blessed with a male heir, and as she gave birth to a third daughter, Friedrich made fun of her saying that ‘Austria is a country that only wears skirts.“’
I think it goes unsaid that how the nations relate to one
another is not only based on their present political relations.
In other words, while they may not be on good terms with
each other, these relations don’t define their relationship in whole. There are
times where nations get along, and there are times where they will fight
frequently and ‘hate’ each other. Point is, the hate doesn’t typically last.
While current relations do cause tensions, their pasts have
the most impact on how they view one another. It would therefore be shallow to
say that if nation A and nation B grew up together, only to go to war centuries
later, that they would unequivocally hate each other and be unable to reconcile.
Relationships don’t work like that, and this is especially the case for
immortals who have lived several lifetimes.
I’ve stressed this in other posts before, but the nations
don’t represent their government. They represent their people – they’re cultural,
not political representations. The irony is that they’re forced to serve their government, which may or may
not represent their peoples’ best interest. [x] [x]
It is for this reason that even in times of war, nations on
opposing sides are shown to be getting along with each other when they’re not
on the battlefield.
Ex: America’s occupation of Rome. He doesn’t treat the Italy
brothers as enemies, but rather friends.
Ex: England, Russia, and Germany share their military
rations with each other.
While humans from other nations may bear present grudges
towards each other, this doesn’t always reflect itself in the personification.
It’s important to remember that they’re people themselves, and have had more experiences
that influence their outlook on life.
That said, what this post will set out to demonstrate is
that nations rumoured to canonically hate each other don’t actually. The hatred
isn’t deep-set or genuine. It’s more like a rivalry between someone who constantly
gets on your nerves…someone who you routinely get into arguments with and can
never see eye-to-eye. On the other hand, old war grudges have been shown to heal with time.
Although, some take far longer than
others.
With all that in mind, let’s go over some of the most common
characters that are mistakenly depicted to be in hate-hate relationships. And
yes, while this is intended to be ship neutral, all of these examples can be
used to counter bashes against your ship.
While they may have been on thin ice with each other in the Cold
War, their history runs far deeper than that. Unfortunately, we get very
minimal insight into American-Imperial Russia relations. The strips only depict
Russia’s participation in the American Revolution.
Either way, the two countries don’t hate each other,
regardless of how tense their political relations were and still are. They even
acknowledge this tension as they spend time with each other in the present.
Russia in particular admits to how much America gets on his nerves.
Japan’s betrayal in WW2 caused China to develop a strong
grudge towards him.
Nonetheless, in recent strips, we do see China attempting to
reconcile with Japan through diplomacy.
The two are noted to fight like cats and dogs. Each nation
depicts each other in a negative historical light. They may have resented each
other, and still do from time to time. However, it’s not true, long-lasting hatred.
Ex: Hungary’s somewhat smug reaction to Romania and Bulgaria fighting with
each other.
Regardless, they’re still capable of getting along.
The two bicker every time they see each other.
Comic gags
aside, the two still care for each other and are mentioned to be making some grounds
in their relationship.
Ex: Turkey’s form of bullying Greece is taking him to a
bathhouse and massaging him.
Switzerland yells at Japan to be more assertive and voice
his opinion. It has nothing to do with hatred. If anything, it’s an aggressive form of encouragement.
Romano suffers from an inferiority complex in comparison to
Veneziano, who received most of their grandfather’s attention. As such, he is
often very hostile to Veneziano, referring to him as “stupid little brother”,
or something similar to that depending on his mood.
However, this is only done to Veneziano’s face. When he’s
not around, Romano’s been shown on several occasions to look out for Veneziano.
Short story short, the two have been able to reconcile their
rocky relations in the years following the Revolution. England’s bitter and
scathing nature towards America has softened considerably over the years.
It’s said that England once suffered from one hundred years
of heartbreak, presumably a hint to the American Revolution.[x]
Ex: England still goes to America’s centennial celebrations, despite
how sick it makes him.
He also offers to fix a crack in the first liberty bell he
gave to America, and gives him another one for his bicentennial.
Ex: The two are close enough to make fun of each other’s
politics.
Canada doesn’t hate America. Instead, he hates America’s
egocentrism and often calls him out for this.
While these two are notorious for fighting, having their own
designated preserve to quarrel in…
…they can get along with each other just as well too.
Ex: France used to be England’s cook.
Ex: England proudly calls on France’s cooking skills again
when he opens a butler café.
Ex: A summary of how their relationship’s progressed.
The two don’t get along with each other.
However, that doesn’t stop them from spending Christmas together as ‘family.’ Prussia, of course, initially [teasingly] refuses to accept Austria and Hungary as guests.
…
Albeit the fact that it’s one sided, Prussia’s hatred of
Russia is deep. It’s probably one of the only case examples where it’s not a
matter of two nations simply not getting along.
Ex: Prussia will cough up blood if Russia touches him.
Either that, or he will lose four eyelashes.
With all that in mind, long-lasting hatred between nations
is rare in canon. Similarly, while current political relations may have an
influence on how nations interact with each other, the influence of the past –
on a personal level – is much greater.
Ex: France lays out the rule that as long as the nation
possesses a stable government and a large enough citizenry to identify with
said national identity, the respective personification will remain and continue
to be immortal.
This rule is further confirmed in World Stars, where France
explicitly admits that he exists because of his citizens.
A common misconception that people often make is that the
nations’ identities are a secret kept from the public and that only their bosses
know about them. That simply isn’t true.
In fact, while some humans are shown to be perplexed by the
nations’ immortality, their overall existence is known to the public.
Ex: France introduces himself to Lisa, Jeanne d’Arc’s
reincarnate.
Ex: Italy flirts with his own citizens.
Interestingly, Italy’s also admitted to getting tired of
seeing the same faces of his citizens every day – a consequence of his
immortality. However, he does add to this and claims that seeing
these same faces can also be refreshing.
Point is, on top of their being no knowledge barrier of
their existence, the personifications openly interact with their citizens.
Ex: Romano has his own passport.
Ex: Russia isn’t exempt from civilian duties, such as manual labor.
He’s forced to build a waterway alongside his people under
impoverished conditions.
He fought alongside his people in both world wars (as well
as any other personification), and endured the same notoriously terrible living
conditions that his soldiers were exposed to.
Ex: Coinciding with the last example, the nations serve in
their military. Here, America is tasked with tightening security among his
troops after Germany and Prussia successfully infiltrated them.
Given that this is a series predicated on stereotypes, this
isn’t all that surprising.
Ex: China has a video game addiction resulting from this
becoming a rising problem among Chinese youth.
Ex: Germany strictly adheres to the directions of his GPS.
Hima drew this from a news story of a Bavarian who caused an accident by
following GPS directions.
Ex: Post WW1, several Lithuanians immigrated to America to
outsource their labor so that they could send money back home. As such,
Lithuania lived with America during this time.
The same thing happened with Romano. He went to live with America
during the first Industrial Revolution –a direct effect of his own people
migrating there for work.
Ex: As a result of his shifting cuisine (i.e. Indian and
Chinese influences), England is beginning to learn how to cook.
Ex: A nation’s obesity rate likewise impacts the weight of
the personification.
I don’t know, we’re straying into speculative territory here. I like to work from the strips, and base my interpretation on the facts presented. Personally, I find it hard to believe that America wouldn’t know what a cold is, let alone being able to experience the symptoms and yet not link it to illness.
[Just a side note I forgot to mention before]:
In “In just 2 minutes you can grasp the exterior of the European economy,” we learn that the nations get sick as a result of recessions. It doesn’t say anything on whether or not they can get sick as a result of exposure to it.
However, I concur, as @guiltipanda pointed out, Romano contracted Chorea as a result of its prevalence within Southern Italy. But, my addition to that point would be that it has to be a significant political/societal problem as stated in the strip listed above. Remember that the nations have a stronger immune system than your average person.
In other words, the nations can contract illnesses from their people, it just has to be major.
[My speculation] While we haven’t seen it depicted where America directly views illness within his population, he would have had to.
1) Consider previous leaders who died of illness.
2) Consider how prevalent illness was without modern medicine + during times of war (especially in the trenches).
Likewise, although Canada barred America from seeing England when he acquired a cold after the Revolution, he was still aware of the existence and possibility of personification illness. He’s naïve and inexperienced, sure, but not to that degree. That’s why I would attribute it to both a consistency error and a logistical fallacy.
As for Hungary, unfortunately, I still have a ton of requests to get to beforehand! I’ve often see people claim that her love for yaoi is fanon. It’s…canon, not that it makes it anymore right. It’s not a mischaracterization, but is more of a miscalculation in how she’s depicted.
Please note that Freud’s concepts are allegorical in nature and are not meant to be taken on a literal level…
Psychoanalyzing the German brothers’ personalities + childhoods
Psychoanalyzing America’s personality + childhood
The effects of being weaned off too early; in other words, gaining independence and autonomy at a young age.
Psychoanalyzing Belarus:
She clearly has a phallic fixation, and at least alludes to Freud’s notion of castration anxiety. The amount of times she talks about ripping off male genitalia/ anything to do with them is the biggest clue of this.
Psychoanalyzing Hungary:
Hungary also has a phallic fixation, except it’s more to do with Freud’s notion of penis envy (again, this is allegorical). The amount of times she talks about having male genitalia during childhood is the most obvious clue of this.
Yes! It used to be part of men’s fashion wear.
The best part of this scene is that Hungary congratulates the person who got Austria onto the topic of underwear in the first place.
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