One, I don’t appreciate your tone. I’ve already said before that my word isn’t law. This is a place for discussion, not me indoctrinating or forcing my outlook onto others. You guys are my check and balance, and in no way are you obligated to agree with me.
Two, calling someone an uncle is not mutually exclusive from being a father figure. They can go together.
My justification is that all the other Nordics are waiting for Santa Claus and Finland to appear. Ladonia generically refers to them as Uncles.
Denmark comments that any kid would refer to them as an uncle. Ladonia later refers to them as Swe’s friends. I think this correction and differentiation on Ladonia’s part is him being embarrassed by Iceland’s initial confusion at the label of being called an uncle.
Considering how Ladonia first uses uncles generically as they all wait, which happens to include Sweden, this is why I believe that he grouped them together to fall in line with how he perceives his relationship with Sweden. Like you said, Sweden acts as a father figure to Ladonia, but given how much pride Ladonia takes in his independence, I don’t think he sees him this way.
Further, what differentiates Sealand and Sweden’s more explicit parent-child relationship is that Sweden actually adopts Sealand, not to mention the fact that Sealand isn’t autonomously recognized.
[Side note: I know who you are :O …You asked me this first off anon???]
I just want to point out that these characterization posts aren’t analyses or theories. I’m simply presenting canon material.
It’s unfortunate and a bit tedious, but I have to play catch up for others by clarifying common misconceptions. Only then will I be able to get into the really deep and long theories that I have in store for later 😉
It’s interesting that you brought this up, because I’ve actually developed a mini-theory about it!!
[All of this is making the assumption
that Germany is Holy Rome]
However, we only know that Germany
has a thing for maid dresses. Here, Prussia is reading an entry from Germany’s diary.
Germany’s embarrassed reaction when he finds out that Prussia has read this is a dead giveaway.
What I’ve seen other people validly speculate about,
and what I also believe could be true is that this might be Germany
subconsciously [indirectly] remembering Chibitalia.
This would fall consistent with how he appears to recall fuzzy memories of Chibitalia in Buon San Valentino.
Now, while the subject of a school
uniform is not quite the same as a maid’s uniform, it’s the fact that they’re similar
enough. In that case, perhaps France is inadvertently trying to jog Germany’s memory
in getting him to remember that he’s Holy Rome.
This would explain why France asks
Germany to come over “discreetly” – in a hush-hush manner. Perhaps this is
because the other nations have an unwritten but nonetheless agreed on pact to
not mention Germany’s past.
Ex: We’ve seen England grow uncomfortable
upon recalling a memory of Holy Rome, Lithuania is relieved when Germany doesn’t
remember him when they first meet, Japan notices that Prussia doesn’t tell
Germany everything about his past.
Also, notice how Germany is wearing a cloak…. another tribute to Holy Rome?
All righty! As stated in canon, the nations aren’t able to remember everything.
Tonight’s post will go through several examples of this (both old and new), including the different justifications and reasoning used.
I think that has more to do with a misinterpretation of his
character, given that we don’t canonically see him in any romantic
relationships. A misconception for me is when people flip canon facts 🙂
However, both canon pieces of
information that you provided are extremely relevant and I cannot stress them enough
if you ever intend to characterize Prussia in a fanwork.
Just wanted to point out that while they did indeed form a
union and are historically tied that way, Hima hasn’t gone that route, nor has
he characterized them in that close of a way. There’s very little canon
information provided about them; that’s an assumption on your part, even if it is founded in historical fact.
Given that the character note is from as early as Volume 2,
and in pretty much all the events you can find Prussia lamenting about his loneliness, I don’t think Prussia thinks/thought of their relationship as all
that important or close.
Likewise, while this does conflict with other canon
material, Prussia is said to have started out as the Margraviate of Brandenburg in “Lichtenstein’s Journal of Swiss
Dopiness.” He was later absorbed into the Teutonic Knights. Meanwhile, other
canon material (such as the Volume 2 character note) conflicts with this. There’s
also the fact that Brandenburg is a separate character.
“
Prussia, too, began as the Margraviate of Brandenburg intended to buffer Slavic expansion, and later incorporated the territory of the Teutonic Knights.”
Either way, it doesn’t seem like Hima has placed much
emphasis on Brandenburg. Again, given how lonely Prussia is for having not been
in a close relationship [of any kind], I’m sticking with the Volume 2 character note until it’s
stated otherwise in canon. There’s really no point disputing over small
historical facts when we’re dealing with loosely fictional characters.
No. He was maybe initially a bit creeped out by Russia, but
they’re both seen co-operating with each other back when they were tasked with
studying France’s culture in the 1700s.
…
It’s only really until after WW2 where we see things shift, albeit
it’s a bit clear as to what actually happened to cause this hatred.
All we know is that is
that it’s bad considering that Prussia is later noted to puke if Russia even so
much as lays a finger on him; either that or he’ll lose four eyelashes (likely
a reference to the four Allied-controlled zones).
Likewise, we also know that Prussia worked unprofitable jobs
for Russia post-WW2.
“He was under Russia’s control after WWII, dreaming of Italy’s warm sunshine, while stuck with doing unprofitable jobs.”
It’s not quite like that. I think it’s more a matter of
how old the strips are.
A lot of the national stereotypes were heavily exaggerated in
earlier characterizations.
Ex: Germany is in fact noted to be humourless + jokes go
right over his head.
In newer strips, the stereotype remains with Germany, but not
nearly to the same degree.
His humour is subtle and less explicit. In other words, he
does possess a sense of humour, a pretty sly and sarcastic one, but it’s not expressive
or obvious.
Ex: He takes a photo of Italy when he makes a silly face.